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	<title>Comments on: UW Student Group Wants to Carry Guns; Outs Themselves as Huge Dorks</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except!  I don&#039;t dislike these people.  They&#039;re just 100 kinds of wrong-headed for wanting to bring guns into the classroom.  The reason I took this approach is because we&#039;ve had this debate before and no matter how many salient arguments are brought up for why guns in the classroom are a bad idea, nobody gets anywhere.  Rather than have a long-winded debate that goes nowhere, I decided that casting these people as social rejects might be more effective.  I have a no tolerance policy on this issue (obviously) and if peer pressure and the desire to be socially accepted is the only thing that works to change their minds, then so be it.

So, I say again, what kind of dork wants to bring a loaded handgun into the classroom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except!  I don&#8217;t dislike these people.  They&#8217;re just 100 kinds of wrong-headed for wanting to bring guns into the classroom.  The reason I took this approach is because we&#8217;ve had this debate before and no matter how many salient arguments are brought up for why guns in the classroom are a bad idea, nobody gets anywhere.  Rather than have a long-winded debate that goes nowhere, I decided that casting these people as social rejects might be more effective.  I have a no tolerance policy on this issue (obviously) and if peer pressure and the desire to be socially accepted is the only thing that works to change their minds, then so be it.</p>
<p>So, I say again, what kind of dork wants to bring a loaded handgun into the classroom?</p>
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		<title>By: gargamello</title>
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		<dc:creator>gargamello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the time I&#039;m a good guy, a benevolent man, a man of and for the people, a considerate and tolerant soul bent on universal peace and acceptance of all creeds and beliefs, a visionary whose thoughtfulness knows no real bounds.  Other times I like to rant about people I don&#039;t like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the time I&#8217;m a good guy, a benevolent man, a man of and for the people, a considerate and tolerant soul bent on universal peace and acceptance of all creeds and beliefs, a visionary whose thoughtfulness knows no real bounds.  Other times I like to rant about people I don&#8217;t like.</p>
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		<title>By: Zee Grega</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zee Grega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that the part of the news story that irked me the most--and for the record?  I&#039;m totally fine with people owning guns, I don&#039;t think guns are the devil, I support the rational sort of gun control policy that is focused on registration and training not the sort of gun control policy that seeks to prevent anyone from owning a gun--is this part:

&lt;i&gt;Yip and others like him hypothesize that the Virginia Tech shootings could have been minimized or even eliminated if students at Virginia Tech were allowed to take guns to school.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, sure, &lt;b&gt;maybe&lt;/b&gt; someone with a gun could&#039;ve taken out the shooter early enough to minimize the loss of life that day, but maybe some jumped-up wannabe vigilante with a gun and no real-life training or experience with combat situations beyond his &quot;Make My Day&quot; fantasies would only have made the whole tragic experience even more horrific.  My hypothesis is that had the shooter received proper medical care for his mental illness before he got anywhere near a gun shop no one would have died that day, but, hey, why bother with the complicated answers when there&#039;s a simplistic solution, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that the part of the news story that irked me the most&#8211;and for the record?  I&#8217;m totally fine with people owning guns, I don&#8217;t think guns are the devil, I support the rational sort of gun control policy that is focused on registration and training not the sort of gun control policy that seeks to prevent anyone from owning a gun&#8211;is this part:</p>
<p><i>Yip and others like him hypothesize that the Virginia Tech shootings could have been minimized or even eliminated if students at Virginia Tech were allowed to take guns to school.</i></p>
<p>Well, sure, <b>maybe</b> someone with a gun could&#8217;ve taken out the shooter early enough to minimize the loss of life that day, but maybe some jumped-up wannabe vigilante with a gun and no real-life training or experience with combat situations beyond his &quot;Make My Day&quot; fantasies would only have made the whole tragic experience even more horrific.  My hypothesis is that had the shooter received proper medical care for his mental illness before he got anywhere near a gun shop no one would have died that day, but, hey, why bother with the complicated answers when there&#8217;s a simplistic solution, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: tonyb</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonyb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guns are for wusses anyway.  You gotta problem with me, come to me and we can either argue or if you really feel the need we can have a fist fight. While I&#039;d prefer to argue there&#039;s something to be said for an old-fashioned-put-your-dukes-up-fist-fight that appeals to me depending on the situation.  At least there&#039;s some equal footing when you argue or are in a fist fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guns are for wusses anyway.  You gotta problem with me, come to me and we can either argue or if you really feel the need we can have a fist fight. While I&#8217;d prefer to argue there&#8217;s something to be said for an old-fashioned-put-your-dukes-up-fist-fight that appeals to me depending on the situation.  At least there&#8217;s some equal footing when you argue or are in a fist fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ad hominem attack?  Check.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc?  Check.

Straw man?  Check.

Congrats, you hit the trifecta of logical fallacies.  That takes effort!

Of course, you’re right.  I could barely hide my disdain at Cabela’s but mostly it was because of the parents who let their kid run wild near the gun section where he hopped out from behind a clothes rack and pretended to shoot people.  It’s one thing for little kids to pretend to shoot things but it becomes a lot more sinister when they do it around real guns.  The juxtaposition was a little too much for me to handle, obvs.

Anyway, this doesn’t have anything to do with the price of bullets in the U District, now does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ad hominem attack?  Check.</p>
<p>Post hoc ergo propter hoc?  Check.</p>
<p>Straw man?  Check.</p>
<p>Congrats, you hit the trifecta of logical fallacies.  That takes effort!</p>
<p>Of course, you’re right.  I could barely hide my disdain at Cabela’s but mostly it was because of the parents who let their kid run wild near the gun section where he hopped out from behind a clothes rack and pretended to shoot people.  It’s one thing for little kids to pretend to shoot things but it becomes a lot more sinister when they do it around real guns.  The juxtaposition was a little too much for me to handle, obvs.</p>
<p>Anyway, this doesn’t have anything to do with the price of bullets in the U District, now does it?</p>
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		<title>By: dsevenster</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsevenster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My opinion:  Darwinism takes care of these folks.

Tolerant?!  That&#039;s funny!  Then who the hell was I with at the Cabello&#039;s in Lacey?  Surrounded by locals hastily seeking their ordinance for upcoming excursions, Ryan made no effort to disguise his complete and utter disdain for the patrons and the blatant hunting trophies adorning all corners of the store.  The stones on this kid, am I right?

Ryan&#039;s tolerance extends as far as his eyesight and hearing does.  Neither of which are what they used to be.  Fully aware of the 2nd amendment Ryan&#039;s view is that vehement proponents of guns stay in the 2nd county and don&#039;t leave it.  For Ryan, King County is reserved solely for the 1st.

Cheers to you Healz!

PS - At the Cabello&#039;s there was a polar bear shot and stuffed around 1910.  I don&#039;t know what&#039;s more disturbing, the act of taxidermy on this bear, or the fact it has been morbidly displayed for a longer period of time than it was alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My opinion:  Darwinism takes care of these folks.</p>
<p>Tolerant?!  That&#8217;s funny!  Then who the hell was I with at the Cabello&#8217;s in Lacey?  Surrounded by locals hastily seeking their ordinance for upcoming excursions, Ryan made no effort to disguise his complete and utter disdain for the patrons and the blatant hunting trophies adorning all corners of the store.  The stones on this kid, am I right?</p>
<p>Ryan&#8217;s tolerance extends as far as his eyesight and hearing does.  Neither of which are what they used to be.  Fully aware of the 2nd amendment Ryan&#8217;s view is that vehement proponents of guns stay in the 2nd county and don&#8217;t leave it.  For Ryan, King County is reserved solely for the 1st.</p>
<p>Cheers to you Healz!</p>
<p>PS &#8211; At the Cabello&#8217;s there was a polar bear shot and stuffed around 1910.  I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s more disturbing, the act of taxidermy on this bear, or the fact it has been morbidly displayed for a longer period of time than it was alive.</p>
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		<title>By: jameswa</title>
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		<dc:creator>jameswa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed;  Hi, I have an opinion...my opinion is id like to get absolutely hammered but NOT call a cab and just play bumper cars all the way to dicks.  thats just my opinion though.  does that count?  thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed;  Hi, I have an opinion&#8230;my opinion is id like to get absolutely hammered but NOT call a cab and just play bumper cars all the way to dicks.  thats just my opinion though.  does that count?  thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your opinion stops mattering when you want to bring a loaded gun into the classroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your opinion stops mattering when you want to bring a loaded gun into the classroom.</p>
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		<title>By: biggreenmonster</title>
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		<dc:creator>biggreenmonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, people who have different opinions than yours are huge dorks. 

Personally, I hate those assholes who don&#039;t let cops search their houses at will under the guise of &quot;so-called&quot; privacy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, people who have different opinions than yours are huge dorks. </p>
<p>Personally, I hate those assholes who don&#8217;t let cops search their houses at will under the guise of &quot;so-called&quot; privacy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>wesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;your finger will start twitching on your carpal tunnel-riddled hand and you’ll begin to imagine what it would be like to shut my ass up with a bullet to the face&lt;/i&gt;

You totally sold me on your rant with this part right here.  Also add to that how many students will carry those guns to frat parties and bars in the area.  Combine alcohol with testosterone-fueled aggravation and it&#039;s a recipe for disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>your finger will start twitching on your carpal tunnel-riddled hand and you’ll begin to imagine what it would be like to shut my ass up with a bullet to the face</i></p>
<p>You totally sold me on your rant with this part right here.  Also add to that how many students will carry those guns to frat parties and bars in the area.  Combine alcohol with testosterone-fueled aggravation and it&#8217;s a recipe for disaster.</p>
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