Comments on: Gregoire’s Viaduct Decision: No Decision http://seattle.metblogs.com/2006/12/15/gregoires-viaduct-decision-no-decision/ Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:32:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: jason http://seattle.metblogs.com/2006/12/15/gregoires-viaduct-decision-no-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-3457 jason Fri, 15 Dec 2006 23:37:21 +0000 http://seattle.metblogs.com/2006/12/15/gregoires-viaduct-decision-no-decision/#comment-3457 your favorite option is to completely screw up traffic, with no plan at all, and then figure things out later?! that's actually more cowardly and less of a vision than just provided by the governor. you know full well that trying to build in capacity after-the-fact is a non-starter in this city. the argument now is based around people pretending that fixing/replacing the viaduct is the same as planning an entirely new highway where none existed before. i agree that what she's done is smart politically but screws us over. the reason cary moon's plan isn't being considered is that isn't a plan at all. it's a bunch of hopes and dreams without any concrete reality for how it will affect the city the following week, much less 50 years later. "encourage transit"? provide an actual (you know, real and feasible) mass transit plan if you want to be taken seriously. 'moving people' is a nice slogan and completely lacking in specifics. at least the computer models provide something other than pure speculation. your favorite option is to completely screw up traffic, with no plan at all, and then figure things out later?! that’s actually more cowardly and less of a vision than just provided by the governor. you know full well that trying to build in capacity after-the-fact is a non-starter in this city. the argument now is based around people pretending that fixing/replacing the viaduct is the same as planning an entirely new highway where none existed before.

i agree that what she’s done is smart politically but screws us over. the reason cary moon’s plan isn’t being considered is that isn’t a plan at all. it’s a bunch of hopes and dreams without any concrete reality for how it will affect the city the following week, much less 50 years later. “encourage transit”? provide an actual (you know, real and feasible) mass transit plan if you want to be taken seriously. ‘moving people’ is a nice slogan and completely lacking in specifics. at least the computer models provide something other than pure speculation.

]]> By: eldan http://seattle.metblogs.com/2006/12/15/gregoires-viaduct-decision-no-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-3456 eldan Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:27:14 +0000 http://seattle.metblogs.com/2006/12/15/gregoires-viaduct-decision-no-decision/#comment-3456 The thing is, Gregoire has made a decision on the sly: she's chosen not to allow the state to fund the tunnel. As such, it's at least better than simply vetoing the tunnel - her declaration amounts to telling Seattle "you can have the tunnel if you're willing to find the extra money it will cost", which is fair enough considering that it's only this city that will benefit from having a tunnel instead of a viaduct. That said, you're absolutely right about the lack of vision, and actually the other decision Gregoire's taken is the nasty one: she's insisted on framing this as all about cars that we assume will always be there, just a day after trying to score greenie points with the Puget Sound restoration initiative. The thing is, Gregoire has made a decision on the sly: she’s chosen not to allow the state to fund the tunnel. As such, it’s at least better than simply vetoing the tunnel – her declaration amounts to telling Seattle “you can have the tunnel if you’re willing to find the extra money it will cost”, which is fair enough considering that it’s only this city that will benefit from having a tunnel instead of a viaduct.

That said, you’re absolutely right about the lack of vision, and actually the other decision Gregoire’s taken is the nasty one: she’s insisted on framing this as all about cars that we assume will always be there, just a day after trying to score greenie points with the Puget Sound restoration initiative.

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