Comments on: Monorail: A Failure of the Public Initiative System? http://seattle.metblogs.com/2005/11/09/monorail-a-failure-of-the-public-initiative-system/ Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:32:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Brian http://seattle.metblogs.com/2005/11/09/monorail-a-failure-of-the-public-initiative-system/comment-page-1/#comment-1327 Brian Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:56:55 +0000 http://seattle.metblogs.com/2005/11/09/monorail-a-failure-of-the-public-initiative-system/#comment-1327 Stucy something, study it again, study the study, vote, vote again, vote on the vote. 7 years later and the cost has tripled... go figure. Seattle politics at its best. Stucy something, study it again, study the study, vote, vote again, vote on the vote.

7 years later and the cost has tripled… go figure. Seattle politics at its best.

]]> By: Eldan http://seattle.metblogs.com/2005/11/09/monorail-a-failure-of-the-public-initiative-system/comment-page-1/#comment-1326 Eldan Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:36:39 +0000 http://seattle.metblogs.com/2005/11/09/monorail-a-failure-of-the-public-initiative-system/#comment-1326 I don't think it's the initiative system itself that failed, because the first 4 votes would all have had the monorail built. The problem is that initiatives can't really be used to force the local government to do something, because as they have demonstrated this week they can always find ways around the direct mandate. The problem is that the same people who voted for the monorail 4 times voted these clowns into office, and the failure is there. I don’t think it’s the initiative system itself that failed, because the first 4 votes would all have had the monorail built. The problem is that initiatives can’t really be used to force the local government to do something, because as they have demonstrated this week they can always find ways around the direct mandate.

The problem is that the same people who voted for the monorail 4 times voted these clowns into office, and the failure is there.

]]> By: josh http://seattle.metblogs.com/2005/11/09/monorail-a-failure-of-the-public-initiative-system/comment-page-1/#comment-1325 josh Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:39:48 +0000 http://seattle.metblogs.com/2005/11/09/monorail-a-failure-of-the-public-initiative-system/#comment-1325 Another monorail problem might have been message control. "MACPRO" says that it wouldn't have alleviated traffic congestion. I don't know whether that's true, but I don't really care. An elevated rapid transit system <i>would</i> have improved the quality of life in the city and reduced some people's dependence on cars. This, in itself, is an admirable goal. Another monorail problem might have been message control. “MACPRO” says that it wouldn’t have alleviated traffic congestion. I don’t know whether that’s true, but I don’t really care. An elevated rapid transit system would have improved the quality of life in the city and reduced some people’s dependence on cars. This, in itself, is an admirable goal.

]]> By: Kelly http://seattle.metblogs.com/2005/11/09/monorail-a-failure-of-the-public-initiative-system/comment-page-1/#comment-1324 Kelly Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:13:44 +0000 http://seattle.metblogs.com/2005/11/09/monorail-a-failure-of-the-public-initiative-system/#comment-1324 I think that too many votes and too many revisions, plus a city council very against the monorail and pro-light rail, is what killed this. And it's sad, because light rail isn't going to help. We need a grade separate/elevated system to relieve traffic, and until we get it fixed we're going to be the laughing stock of everywhere with better transit (which, at this point, is an awful lot of places). I think that too many votes and too many revisions, plus a city council very against the monorail and pro-light rail, is what killed this. And it’s sad, because light rail isn’t going to help. We need a grade separate/elevated system to relieve traffic, and until we get it fixed we’re going to be the laughing stock of everywhere with better transit (which, at this point, is an awful lot of places).

]]> By: macpro http://seattle.metblogs.com/2005/11/09/monorail-a-failure-of-the-public-initiative-system/comment-page-1/#comment-1323 macpro Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:07:02 +0000 http://seattle.metblogs.com/2005/11/09/monorail-a-failure-of-the-public-initiative-system/#comment-1323 The people in Seattle ought to be congratulated on taking this bold step to stop wasteful government spending on the monorail boondogle. Yesterday's vote was a great step in saving the taxpayers from an expensive project that will never alleviate traffic congestion. The people in Seattle ought to be congratulated on taking this bold step to stop wasteful government spending on the monorail boondogle. Yesterday’s vote was a great step in saving the taxpayers from an expensive project that will never alleviate traffic congestion.

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